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刚刚看Tom的Blog,他的新书已经出版。

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Tom说纸张、印刷他都非常满意,而且比他自己预期的还要快。

The print is very crisp and clear - paper is very white, print very black.

对比我们自己的书,印刷及纸张就不太令人满意了。
不过据说第二次印刷的要好得多了。

Tom的书,无疑又会掀起一场购买风暴了,一个读者留言说:


I was so excited, I almost jumped out and logged on to Amazon. But, it still says [at 10:46am EST ]:

Availability: This item has not yet been released. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.

不知道国内,这本书的中文版又会译成什么样子?


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By eygle on 2005-09-16 09:17 | Comments (19) | Books | 438 |

19 Comments

eygle,
First you're site is quite slow.

>>不知道国内,这本书的中文版又会译成什么样子?

lol, who gives a shit ?! ok just kidding ;)
First I am Chinese, I r/w/speak the language but...

I dont understand this...I really don't....
WHY in God's name would any Oracle professional in China want a translated version of ANY TECHNICAL material much less Tom's book ???
(And let's just assume the translation is SUPERB)

1st) It doesn't help improve his/her English.
2nd) It most likely will fuck up the original meaning of the author or make mistakes.
3rd) Have to wait for it to come out while the rest of the world is putting it to good use.

I mean we are talking about a 100% pure technical book wriiten in English...why would anyone want a translated version ?

Now I am making assumption that an average guy in China working with Oracle technologies day in-out knows enough English to read a computer book.
Is this not the case then ?

On Tom's blog you said:
>> Though it's a little difficut to get it at China.

Just curious, can't you not order from Amazon (US) and have it shipped to China ? Your statement gave me the impression China is still in 1970, haha.

Hello,Robert;

1.我的网站从美国过来可能是很慢的
即便是国内很多地方过来也会很慢,甚至比美国过来还要慢的
当然很多不是因为技术原因,就像blogspot在国内根本无法直接访问一样。

2.国内的Oracle译书
基本上都不是Oracle从业人员翻译的,所以会经常错误百出。包括Tom的书。
不过毕竟大部分人在国内都是看中文版的。
中文和英文原版的价格差异是巨大了,另外习惯也是一个重要因素吧。

3.现在的网络时代
我想基本上已经没有什么是不可以通过网络获得的了,很多人阅读和学习英文资料是没有问题的。

4.是可以通过Amazon来订购
不过仍然很麻烦,如果Amazon在国内有分店就好了:)

>> I mean we are talking about a 100% pure technical book wriiten in English...why would anyone want a translated version ?

虽然很多人已经意识到应该去看英文原版的技术书籍,但是一是很多人弄不到原版,而是另外很多人仍然对于英文不太习惯,还是喜欢看中文书。
英文毕竟不是母语...我也感到很遗憾

>> Just curious, can't you not order from Amazon (US) and have it shipped to China ?

完全可以从amazon上订货,最大的问题是运费,一本书从美国运到中国,貌似单纯运费就可以再买另外一本书了...
所以,在这个层面上说在中国大陆很难弄到原版书。

BTW,eygle,你是用什么代理浏览tom的blog的?

To kamus:

我现在用这个代理:
202.57.76.190:8080

不过很多很快就不能用了,我也经常换!

ultrasurf可以用来浏览blogspot吗?
好像我以前的ultrasurf现在不能用了,也找不到新版本可以下载

ultrasurf 不用了,封的太快,新版也用不了几天的。

希望能看到新的东西,不过单看目录的话有点像expert one on one和concepts的结合体

读了那四章样章,基本觉得expert one on one做了个版本升级和部分扩充.

要是搞影印版就好了......

http://www.cnproxy.com/proxy1.html
更新比较多,一半以上基本可用,我一般用代理猎手先测一下

>> 要是搞影印版就好了......

What the HELL you talking about ???!!!
Stealing Tom's intellectual property ?!

Robert;

他们所说的影印版是中国特有的一种出版形式,就是将原书影印然后出版,同样是英文,但是国内印刷就价格便宜,通常这类书会限制发行地区。

他们指的并不是盗版。

blogspot.com is blocked in China ?

that's fucking bullshit !

千真万确,blogspot.com在中国是被封掉的。

This is stupid...I want to buy some data from http://www.wanfangdata.com.cn/ but can't figure out how to pay for it...crap I can read the policies etc but can not understand it.

For God's sake WHY can't they just take credit card from an international bank like Citibank !!!???

Ok your pages are actually pretty fast now.
Was slow when I first accessed yesterday

影印版不是盗版!!!!
没在中国待过么?
上学的时候我们常买Microsoft的影印版书,
更实惠一些,虽然印刷不如原版,可是价格会便宜5倍以上,更合适学生和收入不高的朋友去阅读.

btw,封IP没什么好奇怪的,一般是按网段封的,在一个网段里面出现一定量的反动黄色或XX功之类的东西就会被封掉的.

>> 影印版不是盗版!!!!

OK, understand.

>> 没在中国待过么?

I have only visited China. Never lived there long enough to learn this kind of things.

>> btw,封IP没什么好奇怪的,

well, for you guys in China maybe..."什么好奇怪的"...you're used to this kind of bullshit.

>> 一般是按网段封的,在一个网段里面出现一定量的反动黄色或XX功之类的东西就会被封掉的.

so blogspot is in that category ???

原来没有在国内生活过哦。
看来只是我们麻木了,呵呵。

说句实话
我还真不理解为什么blogspot会被封掉
使用google blogger的不会有多少xx功和情色内容吧

如果说baidu也提供了blog服务,google的被封我还能理解,哈哈。


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